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Sunday, December 12, 2010

Book 17

Scenes and Characters
Book 17 starts off with Telemachus, Odysseus (disguised as a beggar) and Eumaeus on the farm. Right now Telemachus knows that Odysseus has returned but Eumaeus does not. Telemachus decides to go ahead of Odysseus and return to his palace. The swineherd leads Odysseus a little later to the palace.
The next important scene occurred when Telemachus reached his father’s palace after his long journey away. The first person he ran into was Eurycleia, his old nurse. Then Penelope descended the stairs and greeted him with tears and kisses. Penelope said “You’re home, Telemachus! Sweet light of my eyes! I never thought I’d see you again.” I was amazed by how Penelope could have survived without her husband or son. Neither of whom she new was alive. Homer represents her here as the epitome of a Greek wife. She waited all these years for the return of her husband and when her son left she was still able to get through her sorrow.
Telemachus then told his mother about his voyage and of the news he heard of his father. He described how he sailed to King Nestor’s palace and then he rode by chariot to the palace of Menelaus. During this entire conversation Telemachus knew that his father was here on Ithaca, but it was not time to tell Penelope yet. Do you believe that Telemachus has learned the art of deception, like his father did, through his journey? I believe that before his voyage, Telemachus would not have been able to lie to his mother like this. He now is thinking ahead and realizes it would be better to tell her later.
The next important scene is when Odysseus and Eumaeus are at the fountain in the city and they run into Melanthius. He is a goatherder and servant of Odysseus. He is the first servant we meet who truly despises Odysseus’ household and is on the Suitors’ side. How does Melanthius help develop the story? He is not a dynamic character but he does represent the opposite of Eumaeus. We know that Melanthius despises Odysseus and loves the suitors, so he represents the traitorous servants. He helps develop the other side of the conflict.
The last important scene in book 17 is when Odysseus, disguised as a beggar goes up to Alcinious and begs for scraps of food. Alcinious attacks Odysseus with words at first, saying he is good for nothing. Eumaeus responds “Antinious, highborn as you are…that was a mean low speech!” This quote shows Alcinious’ arrogance and how he believed his power is his own birthright. We see this a lot among the suitors. In this scene Alcinious gets so frustrated with Odysseus’ insults that he throws a chair at him. What does this show about Odysseus and his ability to remain calm in the moment? This is a test of real character that Homer uses to help the reader understand Odysseus’ personality. He is able to stay clam while the Suitor’s are plaguing his own home. He is plotting their death in his mind, but he knows it is not time to retaliate yet.
Guiding Question 1: The title of this book is stranger at the gates. Do you feel that this is fitting for this chapter? Does Odysseus come home as just a stranger because of his physical appearance or has his journey home made him into a different person?
Illuminate the Text
Epic Machinery is used extensively throughout book 17. On lines 135-140 Homer uses an epic simile to give the audience an idea of how the Suitors have used Odysseus’ possessions and how they will pay the price with their lives. He compares them to a doe that nurses her fawns in a lion’s den and the lion returns and deals a mighty blow the fawns, whom are using the lion’s lair. By using this in Homer’s poem the reader can understand Odysseus’ situation.
Another example of Epic Machinerey occurs on line 163. Homer uses an epithet. Homer calls Theoclymenus the godlike seer. He uses this epithet to convince the reader the Theoclymenus can truly see the future. In this scene Theoclymenus sees Penelope’s future and he says to her that Odysseus is on native soil. Although the reader already knows Oddyseus is on the island, this makes the reader feel anxious because they want Penelope to know that everything is ok. The reader becomes more involved in the novel.
In another scene, Telemachus tells his mother of his journey to find word of his father. This is an example of Epic Machinery because it is a previous episode in the story being later retold. Homer uses it because it puts the reader in the moment instead of saying “and so Odysseus told Penelope about his voyage home and then they had a bath.”
Although there is only one translator note for my book, it is extremely important for the reader to understand. The translation occurs after Eumaeus is summoned by the queen.  Penelope tells Eumaeus that she wants to have a word with the beggar (Odysseus). Penelope says that she is frustrated with how the Suitors “bleed her house white”. She wishes Odysseus would come back so he and his son could avenge the outrage of the Suitors. Telemachus then sneezes. This seemed extremely odd to place in a book. The translator said that a sneeze was regarded by ancient Greeks as an omen, since it is not produced at will, so it must be the work of a God. This means that the Gods were responding to Penelope’s decree and hence saying it will come true.
Literary Devices
Foreshadowing: Homer uses this device many times throughout the novel, especially in book 17. When Melanthius is chastising Odysseus, he says that if Odysseus goes to beg from the Suitors they will respond by throwing a chair at him. Of course, later on, this does occur. Like I stated before, when Telemachus sneezed, it sealed the fate of the suitors. We now knew the Suitors were going to meet their ends.
This book is filled with Irony. The whole premise is that Odysseus is disguised as a beggar so that he can test the suitors and how corrupt they truly are. The readers know that the king will take his revenge one day soon, but the Suitors do not realize that the beggar is actually Odysseus. They taunt the beggar, without knowing it means their doom.
Imagery is also extremely important in this book. Homer describes the enormity of Odysseus palace to help the reader gain an idea of who he really was. The feasts are describe in extreme detail along with the clothes the suitors where and even the chairs they sit on.
Guiding Question 2: Put yourself in Odysseus shoes. After being aware from your wife for more than twenty years could you have waited like Odysseus did, taking insults from all the suitors, and not have told your wife you had returned?
Themes:
                Before Odysseus’ enters his own palace he tells Eumaeus to go ahead of him. He says “But there’s no way to hide the belly’s hungers what a curse, what mischief it brews in all our lives! Just for hunger we rig and ride our long benched ships on the barren salt sea, speeding death to enemies.” What significance does this quote have outside of the novel? I believe that he is not talking about physical hunger but about desire. The downfall of some men has been because of their desire to want more in life. Nothing is enough. We look at others and see what we don’t have and not what we do have. The major wars in history have been fought over this reason. The battle of Troy was fought over Helen. World War Two began because the Germans wanted to unify a race a country throughout Europe. They were hungry for more land. Indian tribes used to live off of each other by raiding. In The Odyssey raiding is considered a good thing. Men are praised for stealing riches from others.
                I will compare this theme of hunger to one man we should all know: Macbeth. He was promoted after the battle but his new power was not enough. Instead, he had to kill anyone in line to the throne. He started a war because of his greed. It is just like how the Suitors have gone too far and will meet there death by Odysseus’ hand.
Guiding Question 3: If resources were unlimited would there be no more war?

7 comments:

  1. Part 1: I believe that “Stranger at the Gates” is a fitting title for this book. After coming home from a journey like Odysseus’s, I think anyone would find themselves changed on the inside. Wanting to, but not being able to come for many years can put a lot of strain on a person. Also, witnessing your fellow friends die in a war or on the voyage home can either make someone resilient or hopeless. In Odysseus’s case, I believe he became resilient because he never gave up on coming home, no matter what trials he faced. To me, Odysseus became stronger and more deceiving than before.

    Part 2: Whenever I know a secret or something important happens to me, I usually want to tell a person about it just to get it out of my system. That is what I want to do, but usually I don’t end up following through. In Odysseus’s case, I feel like it would eat me up inside to know something that will put my wife’s mind to rest. I would want to tell her, but I probably wouldn’t follow through because I would realize the consequences of the situation.

    Part 3: Your last guiding question is pretty heavy. I understand what you’re saying about how wars are fought in order to gain something; it’s very true. However, I believe human beings will never feel fulfilled by having “stuff”. Even though there might be unlimited resources, I think humans will still find a way to fight, whether it is about love or religion. It’s sad, but I don’t think it’s possible for humans to avoid war or conflict, even if they have all the resources they want.

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  2. -I think that the chapter title "Stranger At the Gates" does work. It can a mean a bunch of things. I think it does reffer to Odysseus protecting the gates of his palace after returning home after his long journey. I also think it's reffering to Odysseus changing from his journey. Everyone knows him as this strong, war hero, but now he is hidden in disguise and no one knows who he truly is.
    - Personally, i would never have the patiences to wait to tell my wife, who i have not seen for over 20 years. The abuse and insults from the suitors would push me over board and I would be forced to kill everyone. Odysseus is showing that he is tolerant and patient enough to wait till the perfect time to attack.
    - I think just because resources are unlimited i dont think that would end fighting or war. No matter how much we have of anything, it is never enough. Countries will want to conquer other countries. Resources and objects don't give people happiness, happiness is determined from within yourself. You could have all the luxuries in the world and be an unhappy person, and in contrast, you could have nothing and be extremly happy.

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  3. I feel that by calling the chapter “stranger at the gates,” it is setting Odysseus apart from the rest because he is considered an outcast by the inhabitants of his own home (mainly suitors). With his arrival came disrespect from his hosts, as shown through Antinous throwing a stool at him when his back was turned. I don’t think Odysseus’ alteration to a completely different person on the inside affects the manner in which he is treated, since the suitors hardly look past the surface of beggars to catch a glimpse of the true story underneath, they simply toss them aside into a latter category for those who do not reach up to societies needs and should be shunned upon.

    I don’t think I would have been able to wait to tell my wife that I have returned after 20 years. Knowing Odysseus is a rather emotional man, I think that under his deception he truly wanted to tell Penelope that he was home, and it was probably difficult for him to compress those feelings in order to exterminate the suitors. I think that for myself I would have told her immediately, and have trusted that no one else would find out about my identity for fear of rebuttal by the suitors.

    I really like the connection that you made to the reason why others have fought over the years. I agree that most wars are fought over what others have and without a motive, there shouldn’t be a reason to fight. For your question, if resources were unlimited, I believe that they wouldn’t be the cause of war from that point on, yet I do believe that as humans, there is a tendency to be jealous of others for numerous reasons. For example, someone who may have all of the things in the world may not have any compassion or enjoyment from what they have or how they use it, and that is a reason for possible fights to arouse. I think that humans would find something else to fight about, such as the quality of those resources or how they are being used most efficiently for benefit because that longing desire is a bottomless pit that people continue to fill, yet it is never satisfied.

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  4. #1: I feel it is a fitting title for the chapter because he has come home after twenty years, and no one is able to recognize him. I feel he has come home a changed man. He is considered an outcast to the whole palace, and continuing to take the insults from the suitors, unknowing he is the rightful king of Ithaca.
    #2: I dont think I would be able to keep the fact that Im home from the people that matter to me. I would constantly have to urge to tell them, plus, I wouldnt be able to take the insults from the suitors. I feel Odysseus is strong both physically and mentally.
    #3: I believe even with unlimited resources, war would still exist. It is in our human nature to have conflicts, whether it be beliefs or cultural differences, there are always reasons for getting into conflicts.

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  5. Stranger at the Gates truly captures the story in this chapter. Odysseus comes home and it is as if he is a complete stranger. He is a changed man because of being gon for two whole decades. His experiences changed him into becoming a stronger man both mentally and physically. Also he is a stranger because of his looks. Because of his looks people just view him simply as a stranger and treat him that way. I like that you pointed out this question and I feel the title can be interpreted in a few ways.

    If I were in Odysseus’ position I would find it very difficult to tell my wife what my actually identity was. Simply finding the right words and time to talk to my wife would be a tough decision. So I would have to say that I would wait and be insulted by the suitors for a while. This way I could way and think of what I would need to do to get my wife back.

    That is a great question. Most wars are about resources and whoever wins usually gains assets for their country. It could be oil, money or simply more land. If each country or city had all the necessary resources war would be reduced. I can not say that war would be gone because there are wars about religion and customs as well. With unlimited resources I could see an increase of peace.

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  6. GQ1- I think the title is a good fit for the chapter because Odysseus appears to be a stranger and has to prove himself to win the queen, his wife, back. I believe his physical appearance is the most important factor making him a stranger because he has to hide behind this character that is not himself and make up stories about this person he is trying to be instead of being himself. The journey also has some influence on his change because his appearance changed because of the journey. Not only that, but he has gone through so much while he was gone that have made him not true to himself and have made him different.

    GQ2- I would not be able to go through with trying to win my wife back after being away for so long. I'm not saying she is not worth it, but it would be a huge struggle and very rough. I would just want to be with her and not have to go through with fighting for what is rightfully mine, and I would not be able to take the insults. I would not admit who I was if the goddess told me not to, I would respect the goddess and not tell.

    GQ3- There would definitely still be war because war is about hate and not resources. There would still be differences in ideas and values. People hold grudges and have hat for others. I believe resources have nothing to do with what starts fighting, but it is about jealously, hate, and differences.

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  7. The title of this book is definitely appropriate because it when Odysseus finally returns home he is given the welcome of a stranger rather than one of a king. Although Odysseus is treated as an outsider by everyone in the palace, he receives different treatments from Penelope, the suitors, and the servants. Those still hopeful of Odysseus’ return (Penelope, Eumeus, Eurycleia, etc.) treated him as an honored guest, while the suitors and ungrateful servants (Melantho, Melanthius, etc.) treated him as a lowly beggar. I believe Odysseus has come home as a stranger because of his physical appearance because despite the change in his appearance he is the same person inside. He’s bound to have changed a little from his journey, but he is still the clever King of Ithaca who loves his wife and son more than anything in the world.
    I do not think I would have been as patient as Odysseus. This is what separates Odysseus from other human beings. His strong will and cleverness allow him strategically plan the suitors’ demise. If he were to stroll up to the palace and announce his return he would be dead for sure. Odysseus’ ability to keep a cool head and plan things out make him a very cunning hero.
    I believe that even if there were unlimited resources there would still be war. People will always find reasons to kill each other, whether it’s over religion, money, nationalism, or revenge. I know it sounds pretty disheartening, but war is a part of life that will continue to exist despite unlimited resources.

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